Other Oracle database topics - looking for Oracle Database 10g Express Edition win32 release

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looking for Oracle Database 10g Express Edition win32 release

Martin Schuhmacher

2005-10-30, 9:23 am

Hi NG,

some days ago, oracle published "Database 10g Express Edition" for win32.
By now, it slightly disappeard from the oracle website. Does anyone know
a source, maybe a mirror where to get this windows version ? (I have the linux
version already, but this project requires windows).

Yours,
Martin

HansF

2005-10-30, 9:23 am

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:47:53 +0100, Martin Schuhmacher amused us by
writing:

> Hi NG,
>
> some days ago, oracle published "Database 10g Express Edition" for win32.
> By now, it slightly disappeard from the oracle website. Does anyone know
> a source, maybe a mirror where to get this windows version ? (I have the linux
> version already, but this project requires windows).
>

Ya, I noticed that too.

Given that Express Edition is only beta, and you state you have a project,
you might want to get started on a production version. According to
prelim info, XE keeps the same APIs - so it might be sufficient to just
avoid using stuff like Oracle Text and Oracle Intermedia.

As a reminder, the Enterprise, Standard [One] and Personal Edition
of the database are free for development so you might be able to hold off
'till XE is production.

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Hans Forbrich
Canada-wide Oracle training and consulting
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Martin Schuhmacher

2005-10-30, 11:23 am

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:29:23 GMT
HansF <News.Hans@telus.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:47:53 +0100, Martin Schuhmacher amused us by
> writing:
>
> Ya, I noticed that too.
>
> Given that Express Edition is only beta, and you state you have a project,
> you might want to get started on a production version.

well 'project' is perhaps the wrong word. I must program some e-shop for
university diploma. So its more research than productive, and sure noone will
ever buy something in my e-shop :-)

> As a reminder, the Enterprise, Standard [One] and Personal Edition
> of the database are free for development so you might be able to hold off
> 'till XE is production.

so I've a closer look at the Personal Edition.
thanks for this hint.

Martin

Mark Townsend

2005-10-30, 8:23 pm

Martin Schuhmacher wrote:
> Hi NG,
>
> some days ago, oracle published "Database 10g Express Edition" for win32.
> By now, it slightly disappeard from the oracle website. Does anyone know
> a source, maybe a mirror where to get this windows version ? (I have the linux
> version already, but this project requires windows).
>
> Yours,
> Martin

We found a problem in the Windows edition. A fixed version will be
available on OTN later tonight (around 7:00pm PST). Please note that the
software is beta, so by all means kick the tires, but do not use it in a
production environment at this stage

HansF

2005-10-31, 7:23 am

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:54:11 -0800, Mark Townsend amused us by writing:

>
> We found a problem in the Windows edition. A fixed version will be
> available on OTN later tonight (around 7:00pm PST). Please note that the
> software is beta, so by all means kick the tires, but do not use it in a
> production environment at this stage

Mark,

Congrats to Oracle and 'the team' for this amazing step. I know there is
a lot of pent up demand here that can take advantage of [what] this
[appears to be].

It's probably too early to disclose yet, but I/we would appreciate an
answer when available:

1) Will this be under a similar 'supportable' license as JDeveloper?
(ie. free for production use, paid support)

2) Will the 10.2 License docco be updated to reflect this edition? or at
least a supplement to the docco be made available?

(I refer to Oracle® Database Licensing Information 10g Release 2 (10.2)
Part Number B14199-01 .... that's the first stop in every Oracle DB 10g
course I teach!)

--
Hans Forbrich
Canada-wide Oracle training and consulting
mailto: Fuzzy.GreyBeard_at_gmail.com
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Mark Townsend

2005-10-31, 7:23 am

Thanks for the note - Comments inline

HansF wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:54:11 -0800, Mark Townsend amused us by writing:
>
>
> Mark,
>
> Congrats to Oracle and 'the team' for this amazing step. I know there is
> a lot of pent up demand here that can take advantage of [what] this
> [appears to be].

Here's hoping. It is a big step. Hopefully this will mean lots more
people building applications and running Oracle, which is think is a
win:win for everyone concerned (including the developers and users ;-) )
>
> It's probably too early to disclose yet, but I/we would appreciate an
> answer when available:
>
> 1) Will this be under a similar 'supportable' license as JDeveloper?
> (ie. free for production use, paid support)

The plan is no support. If users want support then they need to use one
of the licensable editions. No patches either - if we need to patch it,
then we will just re-release a patched edition, users can download and
re-install. We will provide an online forum on OTN for 'how to' type
questions, hosted by Tom Kyte. All of us will be answering questions for
a good while, but the aim is to develop the community and have the
members of the forum support each other.
>
> 2) Will the 10.2 License docco be updated to reflect this edition? or at
> least a supplement to the docco be made available?

We will update the 10g License Doc by the time XE goes production

Note that Express Edition comes with it's own doc -
http://www.oracle.com/pls/xe102/homepage

These in turn 'fall into' the 10g doc via deep links, but are produced
in the same vein as the original 2 Day content - get the first time user
up and started, and then disclose further information in a 'just in
time' manner.

>
> (I refer to Oracle® Database Licensing Information 10g Release 2 (10.2)
> Part Number B14199-01 .... that's the first stop in every Oracle DB 10g
> course I teach!)
>

Hopefully this will lead to many more courses being taught to many more
Oracle users. Nobody needs to settle anymore; now everyone can have the
best :-)

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