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Captain Nemo

2006-01-24, 9:23 am

Hi

I'm working on an ASP project where the clients want to be able to
effectively perform SELECT queries joining tables from two different
databases (located on the same SQL-Server).

Does this involve creating virtual tables that link to another database, or
am I completely on the wrong track?

Any hints as to where I might find more information (buzz-words, etc.) would
be most appreciated.

Thanks


MC

2006-01-24, 9:23 am

Try 'four part names' :).
server.database.owner.table


MC


"Captain Nemo" <nemo@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> I'm working on an ASP project where the clients want to be able to
> effectively perform SELECT queries joining tables from two different
> databases (located on the same SQL-Server).
>
> Does this involve creating virtual tables that link to another database,
> or
> am I completely on the wrong track?
>
> Any hints as to where I might find more information (buzz-words, etc.)
> would
> be most appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
>



Tom Moreau

2006-01-24, 9:23 am

Use 3-part naming:

select
*
from
dbo.MyTable l
join
OtherDB.dbo.OtherTable o on o.PK = l.PK

--
Tom

----------------------------------------------------
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
SQL Server MVP
Columnist, SQL Server Professional
Toronto, ON Canada
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"Captain Nemo" <nemo@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Hi

I'm working on an ASP project where the clients want to be able to
effectively perform SELECT queries joining tables from two different
databases (located on the same SQL-Server).

Does this involve creating virtual tables that link to another database, or
am I completely on the wrong track?

Any hints as to where I might find more information (buzz-words, etc.) would
be most appreciated.

Thanks



Tom Moreau

2006-01-24, 9:23 am

The OP said the two DB's were on the same server. Therefore, 3-part naming
is sufficient.

--
Tom

----------------------------------------------------
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
SQL Server MVP
Columnist, SQL Server Professional
Toronto, ON Canada
www.pinpub.com

"MC" <marko_culo#@#yahoo#.#com#> wrote in message
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Try 'four part names' :).
server.database.owner.table


MC


"Captain Nemo" <nemo@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:6oqBf.8267$wl.3901@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Hi
>
> I'm working on an ASP project where the clients want to be able to
> effectively perform SELECT queries joining tables from two different
> databases (located on the same SQL-Server).
>
> Does this involve creating virtual tables that link to another database,
> or
> am I completely on the wrong track?
>
> Any hints as to where I might find more information (buzz-words, etc.)
> would
> be most appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
>




Captain Nemo

2006-01-24, 9:23 am

"Tom Moreau" <tom@dont.spam.me.cips.ca> wrote in message
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> The OP said the two DB's were on the same server. Therefore, 3-part

naming
> is sufficient.
>
> --
> Tom


It sure is! I've just tried it out. Where I went wrong was thinking that
2-part naming would do it (omitting the 'dbo').

Thanks, Tom


MC

2006-01-24, 9:23 am

Agreed, but why not provide a more complete info since theres a little
difference? He may need to pull data from two servers tomorrow...


MC


"Tom Moreau" <tom@dont.spam.me.cips.ca> wrote in message
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> The OP said the two DB's were on the same server. Therefore, 3-part
> naming
> is sufficient.
>
> --
> Tom
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
>
> "MC" <marko_culo#@#yahoo#.#com#> wrote in message
> news:dr5cc8$bue$1@ma
gcargo.vodatel.hr...
> Try 'four part names' :).
> server.database.owner.table
>
>
> MC
>
>
> "Captain Nemo" <nemo@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:6oqBf.8267$wl.3901@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
>
>



Tom Moreau

2006-01-24, 11:23 am

There's often a performance difference.

--
Tom

----------------------------------------------------
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
SQL Server MVP
Columnist, SQL Server Professional
Toronto, ON Canada
www.pinpub.com

"MC" <marko_culo#@#yahoo#.#com#> wrote in message
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Agreed, but why not provide a more complete info since theres a little
difference? He may need to pull data from two servers tomorrow...


MC


"Tom Moreau" <tom@dont.spam.me.cips.ca> wrote in message
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> The OP said the two DB's were on the same server. Therefore, 3-part
> naming
> is sufficient.
>
> --
> Tom
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
>
> "MC" <marko_culo#@#yahoo#.#com#> wrote in message
> news:dr5cc8$bue$1@ma
gcargo.vodatel.hr...
> Try 'four part names' :).
> server.database.owner.table
>
>
> MC
>
>
> "Captain Nemo" <nemo@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:6oqBf.8267$wl.3901@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
>
>




MC

2006-01-25, 3:27 am

Do you mean that actually specifing servername slows down the query? Could
you explain why?

MC

"Tom Moreau" <tom@dont.spam.me.cips.ca> wrote in message
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> There's often a performance difference.
>
> --
> Tom
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
>
> "MC" <marko_culo#@#yahoo#.#com#> wrote in message
> news:dr5eu2$s5q$1@ma
gcargo.vodatel.hr...
> Agreed, but why not provide a more complete info since theres a little
> difference? He may need to pull data from two servers tomorrow...
>
>
> MC
>
>
> "Tom Moreau" <tom@dont.spam.me.cips.ca> wrote in message
> news:LBqBf.4368$ft2.109590@news20.bellglobal.com...
>
>
>
>



Erland Sommarskog

2006-01-26, 4:57 pm

MC (marko_culo#@#yahoo#
.#com#) writes:
> Do you mean that actually specifing servername slows down the query? Could
> you explain why?


If the server name use is @@servername, SQL Server will shortcut, and
there is no overhead.

But if the linked server is defined a true loopback, so that there is a
new connection made, there is obviously an overhead, as data is first
passed to SQL Server, to the OLE DB provider on one connection, and then
the OLE DB provider passes the data back to another connection.

--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel@sommarskog.se

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MC

2006-01-26, 4:57 pm

Thank you for that, I assumed engine would 'optimize' that and never
checked. Just when I think I actually know something ;).....

MC


"Erland Sommarskog" <esquel@sommarskog.se> wrote in message
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> MC (marko_culo#@#yahoo#
.#com#) writes:
>
> If the server name use is @@servername, SQL Server will shortcut, and
> there is no overhead.
>
> But if the linked server is defined a true loopback, so that there is a
> new connection made, there is obviously an overhead, as data is first
> passed to SQL Server, to the OLE DB provider on one connection, and then
> the OLE DB provider passes the data back to another connection.
>
> --
> Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel@sommarskog.se
>
> Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...oads/books.mspx
> Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodin...ions/books.mspx



Erland Sommarskog

2006-01-26, 4:57 pm

MC (marko_culo#@#yahoo#
.#com#) writes:
> Thank you for that, I assumed engine would 'optimize' that and never
> checked. Just when I think I actually know something ;).....


As I mentioned, it does optimize when the server is @@servername, which
it can recognize. But it does not analyse connection strings.


--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel@sommarskog.se

Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...oads/books.mspx
Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodin...ions/books.mspx
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